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you're investigating someone before they're charged. if you have anything, e-mail us at and thanks to my panel and for all of you for watching. i'm paul gigot. hope to see you you here next week. >> jon: on fox news watch. >> now you're having a good time and now let's get serious and i want to you listen. >> jon: they put out the big political players with a plan for the next four years and it was quite the show. >> feel a cold coming on, take two tax cuts and roll back regulations call us in the morning. >> jon: which members of the media got caught up in the razzle dazzle. >> all of those delegates opposed say no. >> jon: the democrats message was mixed when god and israel's capital get cut from the platform and jammed back
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in in a very messy why. why did most in the media ignore the controversy? two conventions, two candidates, two very different types of coverage and two clear examples of blatant media bias by the mainstream press, is this what to expect leading up to election day. and what handout at the democratic convention caused this frenzy? on the panel this week, writer and fox news contributor, judy miller. syndicated columnist cal thomas and jim pinkerton, contributing editor of the conservative magazine, and ellen ratner of the talk radio news service. i'm jon scott. fox news watch is on right now. ♪ well, that was the scene on thursday night, following barack obama's acceptance speech in charlotte, bringing
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the three-day democratic convention to a close. we'll talk about the media coverage of the president's speech in a minute. but first, something that happened earlier in the the week which most of the media seemed to ignore. >> i'll do that one more time. all those delegates in favor say aye. >> aye. >> all those delegates opposed say no. >> no. >> in the opinion of the chair, two-thirds have voted in the affirmative, the motion is adopted and the platform has been amended as shown on the screen. >> jon: that's los angeles mayor, the chairman of the democratic convention calling for a third vote to amend their platform, this time to include god and reconfirm jerusalem as the capital of israel. it didn't seem to get much attention in the mainstream media, jim. why not? >> it could be because the mainstream media didn't want to make the democrats look bad.
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by contrast, if this would have been the republican, the chairman of the republican convention would have done the voice votes. it didn't appear two-thirds, but they would have had the acoustical engineers and sound checks and which is bigger, the people in the white t-shirts would have been household names now and on the today show, telling how atrocious the republicans are. instead it was the democrats and sweetness and light, abc news didn't touch the story. nbc news gave it like ten seconds. >> and i want to say, we talked about this earlier in the week, jim and i, but i want to say, listen, it was the hottest story on talk radio, both from the right and the left, every talk radio host asked us about it, and so, maybe mainstream media didn't take care of it, but radio absolutely went after it like nothing, nobody's business. >> and so did the stoeocial media, the other defining feature of both conventions,
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but especially the democratic convention, with the inten-- and you could not get on twitter. >> and up front here, the book says meaningless, meaningless, all is meaningless and the whole thing about god, even god got booed. would god want to be identified with a pro-abortion, pro same sex marriage, 16 trillion dollar debt? i don't think so. but and then the whole jerusalem thing, the media never brings this up. every administration says that jerusalem is the capital and then the state department doesn't recognize it, so, it's all phony baloney and they were off script, which was the big story in this, this got out of hand and unable to control it. >> and then the spins about what happened here, and whether it was an oversight or an accident, whether president obama had approved the platform, that was shot down. and then, we were told that he personally intervened to put god and jerusalem back in.
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>> right. >> and if this had been a republican convention and every reporter would have swarmed the platform and the republicans, and tick-tock, tick-tock, instead. abc most astonishing on this. david muer took caroline kennedy aside and she's not elected, and said do you think if uncle ted were here today, do you think-- it was a leading question. don't you think that ted kennedy is part of the convention after all? you know, i miss, i miss, it was embarrassing what they used the journalistic resources for. >> i want to maintain had the convention been switched around and this was at the beginning and the democrat, beginning of the week, i think it would have gotten that attention. and you also have to take a look at the pious factor, you're so anxious to put so much on-- >> and all the energy they need today interview michelle obama and bill clinton and caroline kennedy. and that's what they want
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today do. they didn't want to do anything hard. they wanted to ask michelle obama, when barack obama gets off the stage, what do you say to him. >> i agree with you on that one. >> and former president bill clinton spoke to the convention and earned himself front page coverage in the new york times and probably a lot of other papers, with his speech. >> and some people even, i even saw some of the conservative blogs that that photo that you just showed, was of president clinton purposely trying to hide president obama's face. >> and i believe the gentleman next to you has that theory. >> you're right. and the guy is a showman. he knows what he's doing, and he could be in the theater. i mean, he's out there and doing 50 minutes with the his heels behind the curtain and comes out and hugs him and puts his face-- they do this in the movie, the big star gets the-- >> do you think he really tried to do that. >> absolutely. >> oh, really? >> we can agree that the coverage was a bit vaunted,
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but there's a media and the democrats this a very, very good and strong convention. >> but i do want to say this might have been here too long or watching news watch for too long, but i have to tell you, monday night or tuesday night i was exhausted and decided to go back to my hotel and watch michelle obama's speech and i saw george and whoever that, diane sawyer, i guess her name, yeah, right. diane sawyer on tv and they he were fawning over the speech and i was quite shocked by it. >> speaking of that rick klein is the senior he had for for diane sawyer tonight. tweeted this speech, meaning clinton's speech, was a living breathing organism, the hall, and speech at one. >> more like orgasm, and her like princess diana. >> and judy, said media were fawning and the democrats had a good convention.
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and really the same statements you made. >> they are not. >> rachel maddow, and confronted, and reviewed the michelle obama speech, oh, my god. that's a pretty good review. >> that's the president, he's god, he's god, got the wrong dety. >> jon: and the huffington post called tt king's speech. and which convention was more of a party for the political press? >> the republican convention is over. ♪ the democratic convention done, too. which party's party had the press dancing in the aisles? and cheering for a win? and what can we expect from the media now? find out next on news watch. okay, team! after age 40, we can start losing muscle --
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democratic convention and about 15,000 members of the media attended each one. both conventions featured the wives of the candidates trying to convince voters their husband is the best choice and the rising stars in both parties also made prime time appearances taking their turn to ref up the crowd and the vice-president pick gave their speeches and gave the american people a chance to compare two choices and the two candidates did their best to convenes voters that their plan is the best for america's future. and so, you know, the same kinds of conventions from each side of the aisle. how would you compare the coverage? >> well, actually, i was interested to see the wrath with the w in there, with a hollywood publication, the big breakout star was marco rubio, talk about a man bite dog story. >> i can agree with that except one of the networks found it convenience to cut off two minutes of his speech
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to go to commercial and never would have happened with the democratic convention, never. >> what about the coverage of the platforms, ellen, you know, the republican platform was derided as extreme and right wing and so, for the democratic platform didn't steam to get the same kind of scrutiny. >> it did, although i have to say that the democrats-- i mean, it did in terms of one issue, but we pretty much knew where the democrat platform was going, it's been in one form or another very similar since 1948, actually, in which first came out with some health care. but it's interesting, the democrats actually put a copy of the platform on everybody's seat and all the media got it, too. so they did a different kind of thing with this platform and i don't think that was covered at all by any actually. >> brian williams of nbc was preoccupied with the republican platform and its lack of exception on the abortion plank, but he had nothing to say when it came to the democratic platform
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totally open on abortion up to the moment of live birth and partial birth. a double standard. so the other thing that the media doesn't do or covered the two conventions differently, is that they're preoccupied with a lack of diversity and ideological diversity, how come there aren't more moderates or pro choice republicans. they don't ask the same thing as democrats. why aren't there pro-life democrat, and they have a singular ideology viewpoints. >> i thought things were more narrow, but in terms of singularity, i think it was the republicans name me a pro-life democrat. >> well, they didn't speak, but they're there. >> they are? >> and if the issue is, how the media covered this. and pat goodell was writing, and name three stories that should have gotten attention and didn't. valerie jarrett, white house aide gets secret service protection, how does that
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happen. dav david plouffe, he was with on with george stephanopoulos and a national security advisor that is 172,000, and pension at 55 years old. still working and 148,000 a year more from, from what's left of fannie mae, none of those stories got any traction at all in the mainstream media. >> and hats off to john carl, media note. for putting out one of the three steel workers trotted out in front of the democratic national convention who got up there and said, you know, mitt romney is bad because bain capital closed our company and we lost our jobs. one of them didn't work at the company. he was a union organizers. >> the same problem that they had with that ad that was put out by one of the non-affiliated super pacs, on the obama committee. they need to do better in the fact checking department and i actually think the press, they
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did that and-- >> isn't this the party that's running our country right now? >> yes, it is. >> running or ruining? >> brit hume was very struck by something that i also-- occurred to me as i was watching both the republicans and democratic national conventions, he said he was getting a little tired of the destitution derby here. is there a candidate who's grandfather didn't work in a coal mine and who's grandmother-- you know, after a while it got to be a little bit too much. it sounded like a soap opera, both conventions. >> can i give chris mathews great credit here, came up with entirely new metaphor, instead of the thrill up the leg that barack obama gave him, i thought that if bill clinton landed on mars, would he know how to do it with them and know how to reproduce and do everything. and this is a new strategy, bill clinton fathering children with aliens on mars, a great bit.
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>> jon: much more news watch ahead. imagine that in your mind as we take a break. if you see something that you feel is evidence of media bias, e-mail us at news has the political season been too exhausting for some in the media? >> the conventions are over and now on to the big debates and the big day. are the media up for the challenge or have they already checked out? and on the topic of checks, has all the campaigning fact checking by the media helped or hurt the coverage? answers next on news watch.
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>> well, presidential campaigns are supposed to be the greatest show in american politics. infused with big ideas and historical importance and yet after 16 months and enduring a
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republican primary and two man contest so car with gaffes, rapid fire news cycles, even the best political reporters want the whole thing over with. this is from dylan meyers at politico,.com. are the media getting tired of all this? >> well, they should be. it's just been exhausting and i kept wondering about the 15,000 reporters at these conventions and the stories across america and the world that didn't get covered because they were all worrying about the same, really, silly things because neither party offered us any specifics how they're going to solve the problems that confront us and meet the challenges that they promised to address. >> now, it's interesting that dylan meyers again and even quoted chuck todd, talked about how this is one big market tested campaign and we are all reporting this, the victim of. >> and the 19th century model. we're way beyond that and we
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don't need, mr. chairman, from the great state of the pancake maker, the future home of this-- you know, come on, that's so old hat and the floor reports to get on the floor for the mississippi delegation to fight over the seating of the integrated party of 1964. nothing is happening on the floor so the anchors go down and tell us what the mood is down there. ooh. >> you're right. cal is right the conventions have sort of lost a deliberative function they might have and now the fact-checking this phenomenon we used to have journalism to check fact and journalism plus fact checking and now assault on the fact checkers as another venue. >> jon: we're going to get to fact checking in a minute, but mark liebvich of the new york times, political, what's been missing this year, for lack of a better word, joy. since when are the candidates
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and the campaign supposed to bring joy to reporting. >> especially in an era we have over 8% unemployment, and now we're talking about 16 trillion dollars and i mean, this is ridiculous. >> and you see the press advanced for either campaign, and better by the the reports of joy, they'll do it. they understand the value to that. and happy reporters, well fed and their platform-- >> well, i maintain that a lot of people don't cover the campaigns because they're older reporters and don't like being treated by the young stampers in that way and rebel-- what about the fact checking? that's a big theme in the convention? >> the fact is, ap tried to fact check obama's speech. in an example work, they played a twitter feed. >> the fact checkers are attacking the fact checkers. each candidate have their own
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facts and you don't like the facts that he comes out with, you attack him and the people supporting kessler attack them. and it was an excellent job. >> a really good piece and what was misleading and what was absolutely wrong and as a result, as jim says, they got pillaried for it. >> and the same issue that had a photo of the manhunt between the former president and the current president, peter baker wrote this, this is a president, referring to president obama, who has yet to realize the lofty expectations that propelled him from obscurity to the oval office. another way of saying he's not living up to the job, i guess, and who's idealism or naivete, or hubris has been , and make a better president the next four years, he promised a lot of things four
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years ago that have not come true. why are the media not making more of that. >> let's compare this to an auto mechanic. you go in, get your car fixed and a huge bill and falls apart after you drive it off the lot. and the mechanic says, give me more money and i'll fix it. he promised four years ago, he fixed it, he didn't therefore he should be fired. the media don't pick up on that. >> jon: next on news watch. a freebie handout at the democratic convention, captured on camera. ake things. sowhy let erectile dysfunction get in your way? talk to your doctor about viagra. 20 million men already have. ask your doctor if your heart is healthy enough for sex. do not take viagra if you take nitrates for chest pain; it may cause an unsafe drop in blood pressure. side effects include headache, flushing, upset stomach, and abnormal vision.
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>>. >> jon: one of perks for delegates and media attending the conventions, the bag of swag transit ketsd provided by sponsors and party organizers. you get lots of them. it included umbrellas and rain ponchos and water bottles and nut bars. california delegates received a presidential barbie doll. and at the democratic convention they received a copy of harry potter and the deathly hallows part two. how a wizard defies the odd overcoming great evil to set things right in the world. then we saw the video from the democratic convention provided by the media research center. a member of the team swarmed by convention a


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